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Sony X830F vs X850F – What are their differences?

by on August 8, 2018
 



Sony X830F vs X850F

Sony X830F and X850F are parts of Sony’s 2016 4K HDR LED TV lineup. In the market, X830F comes in 2 screen sizes only, those are 60 inch (XBR60X830F) and 70 Inch (XBR70X830F), while X850F comes in 3 screen sizes option including 65 inch (XBR65X850F), 75 Inch (XBR75X850F), and 85 inch (XBR85X850F). In the market, Sony X850F might be priced hundreds dollar more expensive (XBR65X850F vs XBR60X830F, XBR75X850F vs XBR70X830F), but it has 5 inch bigger than X830F. But of course, their prices certainly are not fixed and could still change at any time. So, ignoring their difference in screen size, what are the differences between them and which is a better choice between them?

Sony X830F vs X850F Key Specs

Specs and Features Sony X830F Sony X850F
Size Available 60 Inch (XBR60X830F), 70 Inch (XBR70X830F) 65 Inch (XBR65X850F), 75 Inch (XBR75X850F), 85 Inch (XBR85X850F)
Panel Type VA Panel IPS Panel (XBR65X850F, XBR75X850F), VA Panel (XBR85X850F)
Resolution 4K (2160 x 3840) 4K (2160 x 3840)
LED Backlight Direct LED Edge LED, (XBR85X850F:Direct LED)
Diming Technology Frame Dimming Frame Dimming
Contrast Enhancement Dynamic Contrast Enhancer Dynamic Contrast Enhancer
Color Technology TriLuminos Display TriLuminos Display
Color Enhancement Super Bit Mapping 4K HDR, Live Color Technology Super Bit Mapping 4K HDR, Live Color Technology
10 Bit Panel Yes Yes
HDR Format HDR 10 and HLG HDR 10 and HLG
Picture Engine 4K HDR Processor X1 4K HDR Processor X1
Clarity Enhancement 4K X Reality Pro, Object-Based HDR Remaster 4K X Reality Pro, Object-Based HDR Remaster
Motion Control Motion Flow XR960 (native 120 Hz) Motion Flow XR960 (native 120 Hz)
Smart TV Platform Android TV Android TV
Version 7 7
Audio Channel 2 2
Speaker Type Bass Reflex Speaker Bass Reflex Speaker
Audio Output 10 watts x 2 10 watts x 2
HDMI Ports 4 (3 side, 1 rear) 4 (3 side, 1 rear)
USB Ports 3 (Side) 3 (side)
Price See the price on Amazon See the price on Amazon

Technologies and Features of Sony X850F and X830F

The difference

At a glance, Sony X830F looks almost similar to X850F in appearance. Additionally, as we see on comparison table above, there are also not many differences between them in specs. The major difference between them is about their panel technology where X830F comes with VA panel and Direct LED backlight while X850F comes with IPA panel and Edge Led backlight. Both of them don’t have local dimming technology and only have frame dimming as their dimming technology. But keep in mind, for its 85 inch model (XBR85X850F), X850F also comes with VA panel and Direct LED backlight, so this comparison is not applicable for XBR85X850F. The use of VA panel makes Sony X830F has deep black level and strong native contrast ratio but on the other hand, this makes its side viewing angle coverage is poor. Otherwise, the use of IPS panel makes X830F has good side viewing angle coverage, but on the other hand, this makes black level and contrast ratio produced is poor.

The similarities

The excepting of on their panel technology, the technologies and features of Sony X850F and X830F are almost similar. Optimized for HDR experience, both of them are equally powered by 4K HDR Processor X1 engine and equally support HDR10 and HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) only and don’t support HDR10+ and Dolby Vision. In addition to its picture engine, both Sony X830F and X850F also have the same technologies and features. There are TriLuminos Display, Live Color Technology, and Super Bit Mapping 4K HDR as their color enhancement technologies, Dynamic Contrast Enhanced and Object Based HDR Remaster as their contrast enhancement technology and also 4K X Reality Pro as their clarity enhancement technology.  Meanwhile, for maximizing their performance in handling motion, both X850F and X830F are also equally powered by MotionFlow XR960 technology based on native 120 Hz refresh rate panel.

Triluminos Display + SUper Bit

As their smart TV platform, both Sony X850F and X830F are equally featuring Google Android TV 7.0 version. As we know, in this version, this platform already supports Google Voice Assistant and Amazon Alexa home assistant.  For connecting with other devices, they are also equally equipped with the same inputs/outputs where there are 4 HDMI ports and 3 USB ports as their major connectivity.  And for delivering sound, both Sony X830F and X850F are also equipped with standard TV sound that is 2.0 channel speaker system with 20 watts of total sound output.

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Sony X830F vs X850F performance

Picture Quality

Since both Sony X830F and X850F use different panel technologies, this makes they have different characteristic in picture quality. Although not as strong as X900F the higher series or the competitor like Samsung NU8000, but Sony X830F still have strong native contrast ratio. Black level produced is still dark enough to make blacks looks really black in dark room.  Additionally, X830F also has excellent black uniformity. Although not as excellent as X900F, combination of deep black level and excellent black uniformity certainly makes dark scene displayed on its screen looks excellent, even when it is set in a dark room. Even when they are playing HDR contents, shadow details of HDR images displayed on its screen also still looks excellent like the intended. Meanwhile, since it uses IPS panel, this makes its contrast ratio is not so strong, even can be said poor where its native contrast ratio is less than 1000:1. This makes X850F cannot produce deep black level. The result, when set in a dark environment, blacks of images displayed on its screen will tend to look grey than really black, that certainly makes dark scene cannot be shown excellently and looks unnatural. Additionally, this certainly also makes X850F is not able to show shadow details of HDR images like the creator’s intended. This means, when set in a dark room, the picture displayed on the screen of X830F will looks far better than what displayed on the screen of X850F. But even so, once it is set in a bright room, the picture displayed on the screen of X850F looks far better due the impact of high native contrast ratio is not as sensitive as in a dark room.

Low Contrast Ratio Vs High

While in term of black level and contrast ratio, X830F is superior, in term of peak brightness, Sony X850F can provide a bit brighter peak brightness than X830F. But essentially, their peak brightness is equally bright enough to maintain its picture quality from the glare, make the picture displayed on their screen look fairly well in most bright room. Since they don’t have local dimming, at any windows size, their peak brightness is almost similar. This means, no matter they are showing a bright small object in dark background or all area of scene is bright, they show them at almost similar brightness. Meanwhile, when playing HDR contents, both of them even can provide brighter peak brightness than when playing SDR content. The result, HDR images looks fairly well on their screen. But even so, since X850F has brighter peak brightness, this certainly also makes HDR images displayed on its screen look better than X830F. But of course, not as good as X900F that has local dimming and provides far brighter peak brightness.  Additionally, since they don’t have local dimming, unwanted adjacent lights around small bright object in a dark background or called “blooming” will be more visible than on the screen of the TV with local dimming. Overall, their peak brightness is fairly good for their class, but still far from 1000 nits as the minimum recommendation to show highlight of HDR images fully like the creator’s intended.

Wide color gamut vs standard

Meanwhile, although both Sony X830F and X850F are powered by the same technologies and features, but in producing color gamut, X830F can do a bit better job than X850F. With other words, X30F can deliver a bit wider color gamut than X850F. But even so, their difference is not too significant. Essentially, both Sony X850F and X830F already support wide color gamut and their color gamut is wide enough to cover most of colors in DCI P3 color space, make color of HDR images mastered in DCI P3 liken HDR10 content can be shown fairly accurate. Additionally, since X830F has deeper black level, this certainly also makes it has better color volume, particularly in very deep colors.  Essentially, X830F can show its wide color gamut at its entire brightness range, but since it doesn’t have local dimming, dark colors cannot be shown as saturated as brighter colors. On the other hand, since it cannot produce deep black level and also doesn’t have local dimming, darker color is even shown worse than X830F. This means, although X830F cannot show darker color as accurate as X900F, but it is still better than X850F. Nevertheless, overall, colors of HDFR images displayed on their screen look fairly accurate. Additionally, since both of them are powered by X1 extreme that can process 10 bit content fairly well, this makes color gradient of HDR image displayed on their screen looks smooth and clear with almost no major color banding. Some little color banding may still be visible, particularly at darker colors, but this should not problem for them and most people might not notice this much.

Side Viewing Angle

Va vs IPS Panel

The use of IPS panel may make X850F is not able to produce deep black, but on the other hand, this makes its side viewing angle coverage is better than X830F. On the screen of X830F, color will look fade started at around 20 degrees off center and front. Black level even will look degrade and tend to grey at narrower angle. The result, when viewed from the angle, started less than 20 degrees, the picture displayed on its will not look as good as when viewed from the center and front.  On the other hand, on the screen of X850F, color may also look shift at around 25 degrees off center and front, but black level will looks more consistent, even when viewed from extremely wide angle. The result, its performance in maintaining its picture quality when viewed from the side may not as good as OLED TV or picture also still look degraded at certain angle, but at least, its side viewing angle coverage is still far better than X830F. This means, when you often watch TV with a group of your family where they usually watch TV from multiple angles, X850F is certainly is better choice for you.

Motion handling and 24p Playback

 

The use of different panel technology also makes they have different pixel response time. For this case, the pixel response time of X830F is lower that certainly make it can do a bit better job than X850F when handling motion blur. Nevertheless, their difference is not too significant and essentially, their performance in handing motion blur is good. When playing fast moving images like sports or fast movies, the picture displayed on their screen looks very smooth and clear with almost no motion. Following fast moving object, there is only a short ghosting trail where most people may not notice this much. Blur that may visible is more due by 60fps persistence than pixel response time. Additionally, since both of them don’t have local dimming, they don’t have visible flicker that means it is great. Lack of visible make motion looks clearer on their screen. Additionally, to minimize blur that caused by 60 fps persistence, both of them also have an optional BFI (Black Frame Insertion) that will make flicker their backlight at certain frequency. This is required to make motion looks clearer, particularly when playing 60 fps content like sport or video games. And for this case, the lowest possible frequency of flickering provided by both X850F and X830F is 120 HZ. This means when playing 60 fps contents, this feature may able to make motion looks clearer, but of course this is not as effective as 60 Hz flickering. By enabling this feature, motion may look clearer, but on the other hand, this will make flicker is visible, particularly for people who sensitive to flicker. Fort you who don’t like flicker, you can disable this feature.

Meanwhile, their performance in handling judder when playing 24p movies is also equally great. No matter the frame rate of the movies, whether it is native 24p videos like Blu-Ray or DVD’s movies, 24p videos from streaming apps like Netflix, Amazon Videos, and others, 24p videos via 60p signal like movies from streaming devices, or 24p videos via 60i signals like movies from satellite TV, all of them will be shown clearly and smoothly with judder-free on their screen. But for this case, for playing movies with judder free, you must some certain settings on their picture settings like set “MotionFlow” to “True Cinema” and set “CineMotion” to “high”.

Inputs/outputs

X850F and X830F inputs

Both Sony X830F and X850F are also equipped with the some inputs/outputs. As their major connectivity, there are 4 HDMI ports where all of them already support HDCP 2.2 and CEC. Meanwhile, which support HDMI 2.0 .Full Bandwidth are only 2 ports (HDM 2 and 3) while that supports ARC (Audio Return Channel) is only 1 port (HDMI 3). Additionally, they are also equally equipped with 3 USB ports where all of them are USB 2.0. In addition to USB and HDMI ports, they are also equally equipped with 1 RF In (Antenna In), 1 Composite In, 1 Component In, 1 Ethernet port, 1 Digital Audio Out (optical), 1 Analog Audio Out (Mini Jack), and 1 IR In for IR Blaster.

Their input lags in “PC” and “Game” mode is are also similar. Although not as low as the competitor like Samsung NU8000 or LG SK8000, but the input lags of Sony X850F and X830F is still low enough for most games, even for fast paced games that required fast reflexes. This makes both Sony X830F and 850F is very responsive and comfortable when used for playing games.

Smart TV

Android TV 2018

As their smart TV, both Sony X830F and X850F are equally featuring Google Android TV 7.0 version.  One of the advantages offered by Android TV is about apps provided, particularly what provided by Google Play Store as its apps store. It provides numerous preinstalled apps. There are Web Browser, VoD Service like Netflix, Amazon Videos, and others, Live TV, Games, and many more. And since Google Play Store is supported by tons of developer, this certainly makes apps provided is also very much, many more than what provided by other apps store like LG apps store or Samsung’s apps store. It may has thousands interest and useful apps, games, contents, but on the other hand, the many apps provided makes it has a long home screen and its home screen is too crowded. To see everything or reach your desired menu, you must make a lot of scrolling. Additionally, this also makes its navigation is a bit confusing and not as easy to use as other smart TV platform. The many apps provided also makes its performance is not too consistent. Sometimes, when you launch an app, it will open quickly with smooth animation, but on other time, it needs 2-3 second of lags before it opens with choppy animation. Nevertheless, overall, their performance is not too disappointed. The interesting thing that offered, now, Google Android TV has been integrated with Google Voice Assistant.  This allows you to do a lot of more with your voice commands. Additionally, Google Android TVs now also already support Amazon Alexa, allow you to control your Amazon Alexa Compatible device like Air Conditioner, Refrigerator, dish washing and others with your voice command via your Sony TV.

Sony 2018 Remote

As the controller, both Sony X850F and X830F are also equipped with the same remote control. Their remote is large and has a lot of buttons, allows you to access directly most basic functions. In addition to standard buttons like “Number Buttons”, direction buttons, some common use button, they also two dedicated buttons for Netflix and Google Play store, allow you to open them without entering the home menu. Their remote also has built-in microphone and combined to Google Voice Assistant, this makes its voice navigation is excellent. And working together with IR blaster, this remote also can be used to control some basic functions of other device connected on to your Sony TV via HDMI ports, allow you to control some of your devices with just a single remote.

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Summary

Performance Sony X830F Sony X850F
Picture Quality (3.8/5) (3.6/5)
HDR Performance (3.8/5) (3.5/5)
Motion Handling (4.3/5) (4.3/5)
Inputs (4.2/5) (4.3/5)
Sound Quality (3.0/5) (3.1/5)
Smart TV (4/5) (4/5)

Conclusion

As we have discussed a lot above, the excepting of their panel technology where Sony X850F comes with IPS panel while X830F comes with VA panel, they are powered by similar technologies and features. The impacted, Sony X830F has stronger native contrast ratio that makes it can produce deep black level but its side viewing angle coverage is poor. On the other hand, X850F has good side viewing angle but it cannot produce deep black due its contrast ratio is weak, makes its dark room performance is poor. Additionally, the other advantages offered by X830F, it can deliver a bit wider color gamut and better color volume that make its colors rendition is better, while the advantage of X850F, it can produce peak brightness that makes it can show better HDR images, particularly when set in a bright room.  Meanwhile, since they are powered by similar technology, except picture quality, their performance is also almost similar, whether it is about their motion handling, 24p playback, input lags, smart TV, and sound performance. Overall, picture quality and performance for mixed usage offered by Sony X850F and X830F is great for their class.

So which is a better choice between them? Considering their panel have different characteristic, this certainly comes back to your need and performance. If you want to use it in a wide room with a lot of viewers or you often watch TV with a group of your family where they usually watch TV from the multiple angles, X850F certainly is a better choice for you. But keep in mind, it is not suitable for a dark room. On the other hand, if you like watch movies with a lot of dark scene like thriller or horror or you often watch TV in a dark room, X830F certainly is a better choice. Now, the decision comes back to you according to your own preference.

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